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by **aox** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:57 am

get a rio karma, where you can talk to the devs and play flac, ogg, mp3, wma, wav

by **H2O** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:48 am

aox wrote:get a rio karma, where you can talk to the devs and play flac, ogg, mp3, wma, wav

The Rio Karma is a start, but I need to see more hardware support it before I start using FLAC. Mp3 is almost completely universal. FLAC is not. I'm not going to spend hours reimporting over four hundred CDs for one player.

by **aox** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:06 am

what other hardware is it that you use?

by **H2O** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:13 pm

I use iPods (2nd and 3rd generation), Creative Nomad Jukeboxes (v1 and v3) a Hard Disc based music player in my car that plays mp3s, and several hardware devices to play music within various computer networks reguardless of OS. Over the past two years I've become even more involved with audio/music so I've had the opportunity to use many hardware devices and use (not just try) different software as well. Accross all of the devices and software that I've used there has been one universaly supported format: mp3.

This is important because I don't want to be tied to any one software or hardware device. I want to play my music wherever I want. I also want the ability to take my music with me anywhere like CDs.

Digital music [files] will have ultimately "made it" when we have a lossless format that is universally supported accross many devices (e.g. mp3) and is about a third (maximum or about 200MB per CD) of the original CD's size.

by **aox** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:05 am

I guess my next question would be why so many devices?

by **aox** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:19 am

This might be interesting/dissappointing to you and your 320kbps mp3s

by **H2O** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:01 pm

aox wrote:I guess my next question would be why so many devices?

That requires a long answer so I'll make it short. :wink:

Upgrades!

aox wrote:This might be interesting/dissappointing to you and your 320kbps mp3s

Thanks for the link. I'll be following the threads closely since I might be affected by this.

by **Guest** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:14 pm

At least the nice thing about FLAC is since it is lossless, you can then convert from it to what ever lossy format you need for a player. (Currently I have all my stuff in FLAC, and create MP3s when I need them)

by **H2O** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:41 am

Does anyone know of any good listening test link (i.e. URLs) for FLAC as compared to other lossless formats or high quality mp3s?

by **aox** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:03 am

The whole point of lossless is that it is lossless; therefore, all lossless formats will sound exactly the same. Investigate hydrogenaudio.org for listening tests. They have problem samples you can use to try and differentiate. As to already conducted tests, you won't find any regarding 320kbps as everyone regards it as extreme overkill.

by **H2O** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:28 am

aox wrote:...Investigate hydrogenaudio.org for listening tests. They have problem samples you can use to try and differentiate.

Will do thanks.

...As to already conducted tests, you won't find any regarding 320kbps as everyone regards it as extreme overkill.

Everyone? I dont.

My mp3s sound much better at this bitrate than any other. My ears can hear the difference.

by **aox** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:53 am

Well, everybody in the HA.org community. And I don't believe you can hear the difference. Once you show me the double-blind ABX results, then I will.

by **H2O** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:44 am

aox wrote:Well, everybody in the HA.org community. And I don't believe you can hear the difference. Once you show me the double-blind ABX results, then I will.

Well, I'm not wearing your ears. I'm wearing mine. :wink:

by **aox** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:10 am

What? What do my ears have to do with it?

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